alex_j ([info]alex_j) wrote,
@ 2008-01-15 18:41:00
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An inner joy to an outwardly bleak life!

I’ve been reading up on courtship for something I’m writing about Russia and I keep stumbling across marriage agencies and porn sites (What?! Accidentally!).  Do a Google search for anything like “Russian women”, “Russian dating”, “Russian courtship behaviour” and you find XXX this and Siberian lesbian threesome that.  This is not helping my “very rigid scientific” research.  However, I have been enlightened by several, often minimally informative, dating sites which mostly cater for ageing (and often horribly gullible!) American men with plenty of cash. 

What they’re selling is “true love on a plate” – there’s a dating supermarket where blokes with loads of money can walk in and pick themselves a Mrs.  The man gets a wife and the woman gets material stability and a new passport.  It’s a trade-off.  The funny thing is the stereotypes and misunderstandings on the parts of both parties – the foreign men and the Russian ladies.

On one dating site an American shared some indispensable courtship advice:   

“Be sure to take quality gifts of women's clothing (elastic waistbands to help with sizing). Quality clothing serves to heighten a Russian women's self-esteem and brings an inner joy to an outwardly bleak life.”

Inner joy to an outwardly bleak life – hilarious.  Why not simply take her a gun (enough of those in America) as a present instead so she can put a swift end to her unbearable suffering.  Love the bit about “elastic waistbands” too – attention to detail…thoughtful guy – what if your bride-to-be is a big-boned Muscovite…or worse…an undernourished Siberian serf with a waist the size of your wrist!  Elastic trousers – one size fits all!  Like those pregnancy clothes they advertise on the metro which you could drive a bus into.

There are other sites where pissed off Russian women try to level the playing field and “educate” western men about the true nature of the mysterious Russian lady.  Also quite over the top at times but makes humorous reading none the less.  

Even when there are No Men available these Ladies simply dive into their work and do everything possible to improve themselves both physically and intellectually. This is not to say that they don’t get lonely for the company of a Man because obviously they do. But until that opportunity presents itself they will continue to do their own thing.

And they are fully prepared to keep their heads held high EVEN to the bitter end if needed.

For some reason throughout the article the woman writes “Man” and “Ladies” with a capital letter – only God gets a capital letter damn you!…us mere mortals have to settle for “m-an/w-omen/p-erson”!  What she writes plays on the Russian suffering thing again…she’s probably Russian Orthodox or reads too much Dostoevsky – “heads held high to the bitter end!”…female comrades marching into battle with the armies of fat potential husbands…with all their cash and receding hairlines. 

The main idea of the rant is to say that Russian women are “not desperate” (which is mostly true), they expect a lot during courtship and respect themselves (also generally true), and they in fact possess a “mysterious power” to seduce men (erm, no it’s not mysterious, it’s called “having tits”).  The author also goes on to attack slanted feminist lesbians in the west who are simply envious of beautiful Russian women (and their newly-acquired elastic trousers!) and feel it necessary to put them down by called them “desperate”.  Snore.

All a very alien world to an Englishman I’m afraid – we’re not very good at this dating lark.  As a rule the English are romantically retarded (sad, but true) – supposedly the most popular place to “pull” in the UK is a nightclub.  Why?  Because it’s dark, you can’t see or hear the other person adequately enough to communicate, and most importantly you’re thoroughly wankered on booze!  So, then if you wake up in the morning next to Frankenstein’s monster you can say “It wasn’t me – I was drunk!” – not guilty Your Honour!

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 




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[info]svl
2008-01-15 04:44 pm UTC (link)
Good reading on making profits off stereotypes:)

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[info]mehanizator
2008-01-15 06:35 pm UTC (link)
nice! :)

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[info]gens_turpissima
2008-01-15 06:50 pm UTC (link)
"she’s probably Russian Orthodox or reads too much Dostoevsky"
i love this bit

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[info]gluckel
2008-01-16 04:00 am UTC (link)
GREAT OBSERVATIONS! You touched upon a very interesting intercultural misunderstanding and, I think, even xenophobia, somehow. When I studied in France, many French guys told me that there is a stereotype in France "Les filles de l'Est"- the "Girls from the East"... who presumably were all looking for husbands in the West, to leave Russia and live in the West!! Disgusting!

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-16 09:08 pm UTC (link)
Most of the best Russian girls refuse to leave the country anyway - oni v plane Putina ;)

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[info]gluckel
2008-01-17 01:46 am UTC (link)
what do you mean by "the best" (the cutest? or the smartest? ;)
and what do you mean by "oni v plane Putina"?
thanx

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-17 07:27 pm UTC (link)
just the patriots ;)

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[info]sky007000
2008-01-17 05:06 am UTC (link)
It may be disgusting, but I've met some of those Russian girls/ladies doing just that; even had a friend who married a Frenchman.

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-17 07:30 pm UTC (link)
French - rubbish...they smell of garlic and ride gay bikes with baskets on the front! ;)

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[info]sky007000
2008-01-17 07:36 pm UTC (link)
And they oui oui all over the place like little lost dogs. :D

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[info]stupid_pixy
2008-01-16 10:04 am UTC (link)
hahaaha wicked, elastic trousers!
the best part of so called Dating resourses goes as at the very begging - Don't hesitate order your russian mail bride now! and a number of reasons why you actually can swap your plastic necklace to something valuable like 25 years old from siberia. Whoa.

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-16 09:10 pm UTC (link)
what did i say? - "true love" ;)
lubov' - markov' =)

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[info]sky007000
2008-01-17 05:08 am UTC (link)
Wonder if that's what they think of those of us who live/lived there and ended up with one of those Russian girls? (Wasn't a dating agency...but not sure anyone knows the difference.)

Speaking of...hows Mash? (Guess you should PM me that one.)

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-17 07:31 pm UTC (link)
aye - not too bad matey. =)

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[info]jalal_kirmizi
2008-01-16 10:15 am UTC (link)
The theme of tits is not developed! Tema sisek ne raskrita!

Alex, and how often do YOU unhappy British wake up next to Frankenstein? :))

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-16 09:12 pm UTC (link)
every morning i look in the mirror after vodka mate ;)

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[info]sky007000
2008-01-17 05:10 am UTC (link)
Or wake to flatmate. :-D

And if they wake up in Britain, I'm sure about 80% of what they wake up with might scare Franky.

Then...I've known a few attractive Brit girls.

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-17 07:32 pm UTC (link)
"Then...I've known a few attractive Brit girls."

M8 - they were lying...probably Latvian! ;)

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[info]megancase
2008-01-16 10:19 am UTC (link)
Holy crap, I cannot imagine a devushka being caught dead in elastic trousers!

Where are you these days, anyway?

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-16 09:15 pm UTC (link)
Still on the verge of getting deported from Russia like every other dirty foreigner ;)
U back to Sweden soon? Kostya soon to become "prof Kostya" i heard! =) All sounds very promising. C u guys soon - give us a shout.

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[info]sky007000
2008-01-17 05:14 am UTC (link)
You know, Sveta likes to analyze why women do these dating sites and why certain men like them (because most Americans prefer women from their own culture as their acclimated).

Guess if you're going to write on it, you might ask their opinions too.

Also...I heard that there are also sites for Russian women to meet Norwegian men, etc. So I guess it's also the language you search in.

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[info]elvin_dill
2008-01-17 05:44 pm UTC (link)
Alex, happy holidays better late than never mate, are you and the Russian half in town these days?

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-17 07:35 pm UTC (link)
aye - if the other half's not on never-ending biz trips! =)

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[info]elvin_dill
2008-01-17 05:46 pm UTC (link)
oh what a silly arse I am. M. Case has already got in touch with you. Have you still got your old phone number?

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[info]alex_j
2008-01-17 07:35 pm UTC (link)
Yep! Give us a shout.

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[info]korolyeva525
2008-01-18 07:57 pm UTC (link)
Great observations and a wicked clever read!! One of my old neighbors was a "mail order bride", and I always felt guilty whenever I'd have to leave from spending time with her. Her husband forbade her to speak Russian, and I could just sense the desperation of don't leave me here whenever I'd leave her house.

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[info]elvia
2008-02-20 05:17 pm UTC (link)
I do not agree that English are romantically retarded ;) I met my English bf during a money-laundering lecture (not what you think - the lecture was about a new anti-money laundering law in Britain).

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[info]alex_j
2008-02-20 06:57 pm UTC (link)
sounds romantic ;)

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[info]rwnetwork
2008-03-30 06:37 am UTC (link)
Most of the texts at marriage sites are written for search engines, so don't take them seriously.

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[info]alex_j
2008-03-30 11:13 am UTC (link)
nah, this was anecdotal stuff written mostly by American blokes - not standard keyword text for SEO.
still can't be taken seriously though simply due to the stupidity of those writing it! ;)

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(Anonymous)
2008-04-06 06:11 am UTC (link)
As people begin to age the gods employ corrupting tactics. They ultimately begin to look down on the children and the wisdom they recently understood:::
They voluntarily turn their back on their opportunity to ascend and instead embrace evil.
It's not old people who go to heaven. Old people must come back because of the mistakes they've made throughout their lives. Children are the ones who have the opportunity to ascend.


Children are discounted by adults in society. The gods corrupt people as they age, use trust-building tactics and soon adults view the children as ignorant, yet to understand the god's system, and subsequently look down on the children. This is one of the most bitter, painful ironies the gods employ, for people consciously turn their back on and lose their opportunity to ascend::::
Religions teach that old people to go to heaven when they die. They don't. Old people are reincarnated. It's the children who go to heaven.
The wisdom the gods impart to children, either through their innocence/purity or religious-based educational pursuits are the gods sharing the truth with their most favored people::::It's the children whom the gods teach the right way for it is the children who have a chance. For example, they teach children to have faith, for understanding the god's geographical clues hurts people by illustrating negative things, opening the door for the god's to employ deceptive tactics.
Old people don't go to heaven. Old people must come back because of the mistakes they've made throughout their lives. It's the children who have the opportunity to go to "heaven". They must behave apprioriately, think correctly and be genuinely god-fearing. Their innocence and lack of desensitization ensures they have a real opportunity to achieve this goal.

This is charecteristic of the gods methodology::::The big prize gone early, compelling people to chase something that already has been decided. They sent this clue with boss as well. It is also a clue supporting my claim RW&B's german is in fact Christianity's Anti-Christ. Logic also dictates, considering the definition.

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